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 Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 2:56 pm Post subject: Obese to morbidly obese? Let's talk befire it's too late. |
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I have spoken to may obese and morbidly obese individuals and not only are they in denial about their eating habits but they are in denial about the gravity of their situation in regard to their health.
I am interested in hearing your theory as to why you are morbidly obese.
I would also like to know what kind of assistance do you think would help you to attain a healthy weight and reamin at that weight.
I understand that this won't be easy for many of you but I would like to understand the thought process of people in your situation.
Let me know what you think. |
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electropole
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
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The reason I am morbidly obese is because as a child I had not much more to do in my town then to sit in front of a TV and eat. And once you become acclimated to this it is hard to change. For me, I had to move out of my house and to school before I could really change my ways. I am 6’ and weighed 440 lbs, and in a year I got down to 330 lbs. which is still morbidly obese. However, for the summer months I have found myself back in my old house and because of the way I programmed myself as a child I have found myself back in my old life style as well. Luckily I have not gained any weight yet, but I have not lost any either. For me, I just need to get back up at school with friends (greatest support I have), have more self control, and no longer have food that my parents cook for dinner.
My best advice for people is to find friends, and don’t keep any snacking food in your house.
My advice for you to help people is to be friendly to obese people, and let them know that you are there for them. That is the most important thing that anybody can do to help someone lose weight, be there for them and be their friend. |
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| Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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| electropole wrote: | The reason I am morbidly obese is because as a child I had not much more to do in my town then to sit in front of a TV and eat. And once you become acclimated to this it is hard to change. For me, I had to move out of my house and to school before I could really change my ways. I am 6’ and weighed 440 lbs, and in a year I got down to 330 lbs. which is still morbidly obese. However, for the summer months I have found myself back in my old house and because of the way I programmed myself as a child I have found myself back in my old life style as well. Luckily I have not gained any weight yet, but I have not lost any either. For me, I just need to get back up at school with friends (greatest support I have), have more self control, and no longer have food that my parents cook for dinner.
My best advice for people is to find friends, and don’t keep any snacking food in your house.
My advice for you to help people is to be friendly to obese people, and let them know that you are there for them. That is the most important thing that anybody can do to help someone lose weight, be there for them and be their friend. |
I think you need a reality check. Even though your excuses are not as pathertic as most fat people's you are still making excuses and you are being dishonest with everyone including yourself.
I'm going to spell it out for you in cold hard facts that don't lie. FOr you to have maintained a weight of 440 pounds even with your slothful lifestyle this is what you were eating.
* Resting (basal) metabolic rate: 4789 calories per day
* Typical daily activities: 2394 calories per day
* Total calories burned: 7184 per day
You were shoving over 7000 calories a day into your cake hole. Son that is called gluttony plain and simple. You were eating 4684 more calories than you should have eaten. You were eating enough for 3 people. Was it worth it?
Big friggin deal. You lost some weight. Just by cutting your calories in half you would lose a pound a day at first. Walk up a few flights of stairs and you could double that. Hell somebody your size can take a shit and lose 10 pounds. Crude huh? I am being crude because I don't want to pay for your medical costs from the comorbidities associated with obesity. I donl;t want to sit next to you on a bus. I don't want to use the men's room after you have used it. I don;t want people like you dictating my food choices.
I'll give you one thing though you are not a total liar so I will afford you the respect that you are due.
I contend that obese people, especially obese woman, are in need of a serious attitude adjustment. I think what is needed to stop this obesity epidemic is some good old fashoined basic training. That's right. All the fat people should be rounded up and put into weighloss boot camps with an emphasis on the word BOOT. They need the fattitude programmed out of them. They need to be programmed to excercise and eat like a human being is supposed to eat.
I am soooooooo sick of hearing all the excuses and the lies and the denial. It is time that this gluttony epidemic gets treated as a moral issue and a character issue and not a medical issue.
Having a normal sized stomach is not the cause of obesity. McDonalds is not the cause of obeisty. The cause of obesity is GLUTTONY! The secondary cause is SLOTH.
"I don't have time to eat healthy." That is total BULLSHIT! How long does it take to put some lettuce in a bowl with some tomatoes, carrots, and bell peppers and some hard boiled eggs and tuna?
It is a lot quicker pouring some skimmed milk on a bowl of Shredded Wheat and eat it that it does to drive to McDildoes and wait at the drive through for some morning McSlop.
It is a lot quicker reaching into your lunch box and pulling out an apple, pear, plum, cherries, grapes ect.. for a mid morning snack than waddling to the candy machine for a Reeses peanutbutter cup.
If you are in such a big friggin hurry at supper waiting the 3 minutes for your microwwave Lean Cuisine to cook eat a frigging orange while you wait.
Stop bullshitting yourself and admit you are a slothful glutton and then stop being a slothful glutton.
Fat women are disgusting but fat men are pathetic. Even fit gay men are more manly than striaght fat men. It's true. When a man has boobs he may just as well cut off his dick because he is no longer a man. If a man cannot even do a pull up he's a pussy. I know a man with only one arm and he can do 10 pull-up. He is twice the man any fat man is.
You are too unfit to serve your country yet you enjoy the freedom paid for by the blood of non gluttons. Are you so selfish and do you love food so much that you are unwilling to become manly enough to serve this country that has given you so much?
What about women? DO you think any normal woman wants some lummox slobbering and sweating all over her? DO you think a decent woman would want to be married to a cardiac cripple?
Boy, if you were in school when I was in school before all this politically correct bullshit anybody who was as fat as you would have been snapped with towels in the locker room untill you looked like a striped version of the Pilsbury Dough Boy. My coach would have had you running laps and he would have given your folks a peoce of his mind but nowadays you would be portrayed as the tragic victim and suit would be filed on behalf of the gravitaionally challenged and the fat man hating NAAFA Nazis would be wadling in a picket line around the school.
Stop the sloth and gluttony and stop it now.
FOr the rest of you who are not as honest as electropole and too cowardly to respond, all I have to say is EAT EAT EAT YOU BIG FAT LOSERS!!
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| Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 12:32 am Post subject: MODERATOR MESSAGE |
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Hi Everyone
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I have seen several posts that are not very profitable to the person they were intended for. Just because we are not face-to-face does not give an excuse for posts that attack. If these posts continue I will remove the posts and the poster.
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2lazy4living
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| Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 1:55 am Post subject: WoW |
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What a Jerk. There is a difference between being blunt and being a jackarse. Psychologically speaking I's say he sounds like a military closet homo case.
I apologize for the above, it's easy to forget being humane when slapped in the face by ignorance. |
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raine
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| Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:29 pm Post subject: weight loss |
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Diet and exercise are not always enough. I walked 10 to 20 miles a week and still found myself getting larger. I could not afford the cost of larger clothes. Then I found the Recipe for Relief and the weight came off easier than I could have believed. If people want relief this is where to find it.
raine
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I did it! You can too. It is not just diet and exercise. moonmaidenmedicine.com has the solution. |
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